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Responding to Alterman: No ‘Joy’ in Stuxnet Responding to Alterman: No ‘Joy’ in Stuxnet

What follows is a response to Eric Alterman’s response to my original post concerning Alterman’s endorsement of the Stuxnet computer worm against Iran’s nuclear program, which Alterman found to be a source of “joy.” If you have the patience, you can read his initial column, my blog post criticizing it, and his reponse to my criticism. Or maybe you have better things to do. Like, your laundry.  Alterman wonders, in his response, if infecting Iran’s computers with a deadly virus is an act of war. He writes: “I have no idea if a computer virus constitutes an ‘act of war’ or not, though if it does, an awful lot of hackers working on behalf of say, Wikileaks, better watch their backs.” What he’s missing, of course, is that when a nation uses a computer virus against another nation, that isnt the same thing as what a hacker for Wikileaks does. It’s the equivalent of say, one country putting a biological virus in another nation’s food supply. Indeed, Russia has formally asked NATO to conduct an inquiry into the Stuxnet virus, whose origin was apparently in Israel but may have had some sort of US support. Reports AFP: “Russia’s envoy to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, said the Stuxnet virus caused centrifuges producing enriched uranium at the Bushehr plant to spin out of control, which could have sparked a new ‘Chernobyl tragedy,’ the 1986 nuclear meltdown in Ukraine. ‘NATO should get down to investigating this matter,’ he said.” But Alterman is joyous about it.  Alterman says, in his response, in regard to the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists, that he “personally said nothing about them one way or another, and I certainly don’t profess to know who carried out the [assassinations] to which Dreyfuss refers.” Here he’s being disingenuous at best. It’s almost certain that the murders were carried out by Israeli hit squads. Alterman works himself into a snit over my comment that if he sees “joy” in unleashing a computer worm because it undermined Iran’s program, he may equally be joyous if the murders have also slowed the program. True, he doesn’t say so. But he doesn’t condemn the assassinations, and if they did slow the program and thus reduce the chances of war with Iran, then why wouldn’t he think that the murders were joyous, too?  Alterman says that I wronged him by mixing up a potential Israeli attack on with an American one. “[Dreyfuss] also spends a great deal of time arguing that an American attack on Iran under Obama was not imminent, but fails to notice that the column was entirely devoted to an Israeli, not an American operation,” he writes. Well, no. He says outright, in the original column, that neocons are “trying to goad Barack Obama into a war,” and he says that Israel’s joyful deployment of Stuxnet means that “ought to serve as a warning to Obama and company against listening to any of these incautious warmongers.” That sounds, to me at least, like he’s referring to the worry that Obama, not Israel, might be tempted to bomb Iran. Of course, either an Israeli attack on Iran or an American one would be illegal, unjustified and catastrophic in its results. But the neoconservatives and their friends would find either one, or both, acceptable. In any case, I’ve never implied that an American attack on Iran is “imminent.” In fact, I feel strongly that Obama has zero appetite for war with Iran, and that he’ll do anything he can to avoid it.

Jan 29, 2011 / Bob Dreyfuss

Jeremy Scahill: Egyptians Want Mubarak Gone Jeremy Scahill: Egyptians Want Mubarak Gone

The protests throughout Egypt are more about getting Mubarak out than anything else.

Jan 28, 2011 / The Shannyn Moore Show

Audio Slide Show: Pictures From Cairo’s Protests

Audio Slide Show: Pictures From Cairo’s Protests Audio Slide Show: Pictures From Cairo’s Protests

An American student gives an eyewitness report on the protests in Egypt this week.

Jan 28, 2011 / The Nation

Egypt’s K Street Connections Egypt’s K Street Connections

As protests roil Cairo, the Egyptian government is spending big money on Washington lobbyists to help with military assistance and an image makeover.

Jan 28, 2011 / Ari Berman

Remembering Dagmar Wilson Remembering Dagmar Wilson

Dagmar Wilson was one of those responsible for what Alice Munro calls the “great switch in women’s lives.”

Jan 28, 2011 / Cora Weiss

Ending the Resource Wars Ending the Resource Wars

In his State of the Union address, President Obama opened a door through which the peace, labor and environmental movements should march—toward an independent energy future.

Jan 28, 2011 / Tom Hayden

This Week at TheNation.com: State of the Union Coverage This Week at TheNation.com: State of the Union Coverage

 State of the Union Coverage. Plus: A special Nation conversation and a new video.

Jan 28, 2011 / Katrina vanden Heuvel

Juan Cole: Egyptians Increasingly Unhappy with State Elite Juan Cole: Egyptians Increasingly Unhappy with State Elite

Is Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's reign coming to an end?

Jan 28, 2011 / Press Room

With His Residency Hurdle Cleared, Can Anything Stop Sort-of Chicagoan Rahm Emanuel from Becoming Mayor? With His Residency Hurdle Cleared, Can Anything Stop Sort-of Chicagoan Rahm Emanuel from Becoming Mayor?

Veteran fixer Rahm Emanuel fixes his ballot problem by finding a court that will let him run for mayor of Chicago.

Jan 28, 2011 / John Nichols

Temporary Stay Granted on Targeted Ugandan Lesbian’s Deportation Temporary Stay Granted on Targeted Ugandan Lesbian’s Deportation

Gay Ugandan activist David Kato was beaten to death earlier this week. Now it’s Brenda Namigadde, a Ugandan lesbian whose immigration status in Britain is unresolved, with a ...

Jan 28, 2011 / Nancy Goldstein

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