In Lviv and Kyiv, the US election came with little fanfare. The bars didn’t play election coverage, and news outlets focused on the daily grind of war. But despite limited public celebration, behind closed doors, everyone was watching.

There are many reasons for Ukrainians to be nervous about how a Trump presidency might affect their war against Russia. There’s Trump’s friendliness with Russian President Vladimir Putin, his withholding military aid to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in exchange for political favors, or his general isolationist agenda and criticism of defense alliances like NATO. There’s also Trump’s vice-presidential pick JD Vance, who has been vocal and active against sending aid to Ukraine. Vance led the Republican coalition in Congress to block aid packages to Ukraine in April and has said on numerous occasions that a peace plan would involve Ukraine ceding its lost territory and giving up on its plans to join NATO, which is the plan that Putin also has suggested. Harris, meanwhile, promised to continue substantial aid to Ukraine.

Trump has repeatedly sidestepped questions regarding his response to the war in Ukraine other than to say that he would “end the war in a day”—that would likely mean pressuring Ukraine into accepting the loss of its territory and abandoning its plans to join NATO. Still, many in Ukraine have been disappointed that the $106 billion that the US has spent on aid to Ukraine has not been enough to fundamentally change the war. Many Ukrainians feel that the Democrats are hindering the overall war effort. This sentiment is fueled by President Joe Biden’s discouragement of airstrikes deep into Russian territory and his refusal to close Ukrainian airspace with NATO’s assistance, due to concerns about escalation.

In the morning before the election, an editorial from The Kyiv Independent implored American voters to consider Ukrainians as they went to the polls, but did not say which of the two candidates would most benefit Ukrainians. One Ukrainian friend explained that election-night watching, even for Ukrainian politicians, is not part of the culture, because politics has been corrupt or under a single party system for decades.

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The media centers that at the beginning of the war that were gathering spots for foreign and Ukrainian journalists have withered or have disappeared as foreign journalists have stopped coming to Ukraine. But there are still cultural outposts for American cultural interests, like America House in central Lviv.  On the second floor of a historic building, there were no events directly related to the election, but it was hosting a English-language speaking club that evening.

At around 6 PM—or 11 AM EST, still many hours before polls would close, Glenn Anderson arrived wearing a Harris-Walz 2024 shirt. A former high-school history teacher in Orlando, Florida, Anderson had moved to Ukraine some eight years ago when he joined the Peace Corps and then was offered a job at Lviv Polytechnic University.

His students began to file in to the “oval office,” a curved room with windows overlooking Lviv’s streets, the election talk began. When discussion turned to Harris being the only hopeful option for Ukraine’s future, Inesa Horaschak from nearby Ivano Frankivsk who commuted to the class via a carsharing service said, “I read that if Trump wins, he will end the war quickly, and maybe that is good.”

“No, we can’t think that way,” Anderson said. “Ending the war will only mean capitulation.”

Olgha Ivaschuk, a journalist living in Lviv but originally from the currently Russian occupied Donbass, interjected. “So many soldiers have been lost,” she said. “I do not believe Ukraine will win. Not the way we want.”

Much of the official messaging since the war began has been that Ukraine must—no, will—regain its territory, including Crimea. On my last reporting trip in Kyiv almost exactly a year ago, government radio programs were discussing the imminent seizure of Crimea, that Crimea would be taken within the next few weeks. That never happened and, by any reasonable measure, was never close to happening, but it nevertheless dominated official programming. Now close to three years on, reports of war fatigue have plagued the Ukrainian government. The military is struggling to find new conscripts, and a counterinsurgency fizzled out earlier this year.

As the pessimism grew in the room, Anderson asked, “Am I the only one at this table that believes in Ukrainian victory?”

Anastasiia Kuchma, from Lviv, said that Ukrainians are interested in the US election for how it will determine aid to Ukraine. She hoped that Harris would win, but explained that Ukrainians are frustrated by the Democratic Party. Under Barack Obama, Crimea was annexed, under Biden, the invasion began and has not ceased. “But we also know that Trump is not dependable,” she said. “He can say one thing and do another or do one thing and say another.”

A young man who gave his name as Ivan explained that people have been talking about the election, though they weren’t expecting to care this much when the war began. “In this country we have no politics because of the war,” he said. “At the beginning of the war, we had the thought that the US election was in three years, so we were pretty confident that the war would end by now and I feel quite sad that we are still in this difficult situation.”

Some view the way to Trump’s heart is with a classic pro-American pitch that pits Ukraine as a defense against the United States’s classic enemies. The morning that the results had come in, officials were already eager to display admiration for Trump—who is known to be most easily persuaded by flattery. On popular Ukrainian morning show Snidanok, former foreign affairs minister Dmytro Kuleba listed five positive lessons from Trump’s win, which included a message that Europe will now need to be more responsible for its own defense, which will open new pathways of cooperation for Ukraine across the EU.

This bipartisan approach has meant that some Ukrainian officials have been courting the Republicans long before the 2024 election. At his offices near the parliament, Maryan Zablotskyy, sent messages to US colleagues to push forward with a plan to build a Ronald Reagan statue. He says he wants it to be made from the melted metal of a destroyed Russian tank that attacked Kyiv. A member of the US-Ukraine working parliamentary group, Zablotskyy’s office has a framed photograph of Reagan, and next to it a photo depicting Félix Rodriguez holding a withered Che Guevara captive, just an hour before Rodriguez assassinated him. The photograph was gifted to Zablotskyy by Rodriguez himself.

Zabloskyy talks about the conflict in the language of the Cold War. “It is a fact that we are not just fighting against Russia but also North Korea and Iran, and they are enemies of the United States” he said. “If you’re just being pro-American and you want to establish a balance of powers, you cannot allow this axis of evil win in Ukraine.” He saw no difference between Harris and Trump “in terms of Ukraine policy” in the lead-up to the election.

“There may have been more pro-Ukrainian comments from Democrats, but less pro-Ukrainian actions,” Zabloskyy said. “And there have been maybe not so loving comments from Republicans, but much more affirmative actions.” He cited Trump’s sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, without mentioning that said pipeline was ushered into existence by Trump’s own first secretary of state Rex Tillerson in 2017, despite warnings from the previous Obama administration. He also cited that President Biden repealed the sanctions, also without mentioning that Trump had placed sanctions only after the project reached 90 percent completion during his presidency, which angered US allies in Europe and which Biden rolled back to rebuild the European relations that Trump had damaged.

But when it came to the idea of Trump pressuring Ukraine to meet Russia’s demands in a hypothetical peace deal, Zablotskyy was adamant. “When Russians say peace, they mean capitulation,” he said. “We are not going to accept that under any circumstances.”

Overall, Ukrainians are mostly eager to communicate that they are reluctant to give into despair. They are deeply invested in the US election, but not for one candidate over another—at least not publicly.

For Mariia Didkovska, a student at the National University in Kyiv and the project coordinator for the Institute of American Studies, an NGO and think tank founded in April 2023, the message is that Ukraine must be ready to explore all avenues possible to continue this increasingly bleak war. There is little room for hopelessness.

“We need a two-party approach, that things are not black and white,” she said. To explain this relentless optimism, she explained that on Sunday a rocket launched by Russia blew out the windows of her department, the Institute of International Relations and Journalism. She and other students came to help clean the glass. “Our faculty has told us to be positive, and that we will continue our studies. Because they know that we will need educated people, no matter what happens here,” she said.

“To be optimistic is our only way to survive.”