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Trump, the Universities, and the Courts—Plus, the Case of Stephen Miller

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Erwin Chemerinsky asks about if Trump defies the courtsand David Klion talks about the architect of Trump’s attack on the undocumented.

Jon Wiener

March 12, 2025

President Trump addresses a joint session of Congress at the US Capitol on March 4, 2025, in Washington, DC.(Win McNamee / Getty Images)

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Trump, the Universities, and the Courts; plus the Case of Stephen Miller | Start Making Sense
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The Supreme Court ruled against Trump last week in the first test of his refusal to release money appropriated by Congress, and more than a dozen more similar cases are likely to come before the court –– probably including a challenge to his withholding hundreds of millions from research universities on the grounds that they have failed to protect Jewish students from antisemitism. But what if Trump defies court decisions that go against him? Erwin Chemerinsky comments –– he’s dean of the Law School at UC Berkeley.

Also: The man in charge of Trump’s plan to deport ten million undocumented people is Stephen Miller, who has a “seething, visceral, unquenchable hatred” for immigrants –– that’s what Nation columnist David Klion says, as he examines a life that “defies any easy explanation.”

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The Supreme Court ruled against Trump last week in the first test of his refusal to release money appropriated by Congress, and more than a dozen more similar cases are likely to come before the court—probably including a challenge to his withholding hundreds of millions from research universities on the grounds that they have failed to protect Jewish students from antisemitism. But what if Trump defies court decisions that go against him? On this episode of Start Making Sense, Erwin Chemerinsky—dean of the Law School at UC Berkeley—comments.

Also on the episode: The man in charge of Trump’s plan to deport 10 million undocumented people is Stephen Miller, who has a “seething, visceral, unquenchable hatred” for immigrants—that’s what Nation columnist David Klion says, as he examines a life that “defies any easy explanation.”

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Republicans and Obamacare, Again; plus Early, Early Bob Dylan / Start Making Sense
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Republicans are about to end Obamcare subsidies, driving up premiums for 20 million people during the year of the midterm elections. How have they managed to end up after all these years with no health insurance plan of their own? John Nichols comments.

Also: Bob Dylan’s earliest recordings have just been released—the first is from 1956 when he was 15 years old—on the 8-CD set ‘Through the Open Window: The Bootleg Series vol. 18” – which ends in 1963, with his historic performance at Carnegie Hall. Sean Wilentz explains – he wrote the 120 page book that accompanies the release. 

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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