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This Time It Will Be Harder for Trump to Challenge the Election—Plus, Talking to Trumpers

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Rick Hasen on election law, and Arlie Hochschild on white men in Appalachia.

Jon Wiener

September 18, 2024

Republican presidential nominee former president Donald Trump, on September 13, 2024, in Las Vegas, Nevada.(Justin Sullivan / Getty Images)

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This Time it will be Harder for Trump to Challenge the Election, plus Talking to Trumpers | Start Making Sense
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Trump has made it clear he won't accept the results of the 2024 election if he loses, and Republicans are doing everything they can make it harder for Democrats to vote. But it will be harder for Trump to challenge this year's election, because of changes in the law–that's what Rick Hasen says. He's professor of law at UCLA, and his writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, Slate and The New York Times.

Also: Trump supporters in Appalachia: Arlie Hochschild has spent years talking with them about how they understand their lives, and how Donald Trump helps overcome their shame. Her new book is “Stolen Pride: Loss, Shame, and the Rise of the Right.”

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Trump has made clear that he won’t accept the results of the 2024 election if he loses, and Republicans are doing everything they can make it harder for Democrats to vote. But it will be harder for Trump to challenge this year’s election results, because of changes in the law. That’s what Rick Hasen says. He’s a professor of law at UCLA, and his writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, Slate, and The New York Times.Also: Trump supporters in Appalachia. Arlie Hochschild has spent years talking with them about how they understand their lives, and how Donald Trump helps overcome their shame. Her new book is Stolen Pride: Loss, Shame, and the Rise of the Right.

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Elon Musk’s First Political Contributions of 2025; plus The History of Culture Wars | Start Making Sense
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The first big election of 2025 will be in Wisconsin, which elects a new Supreme Court Justice on April 1. Elon Musk is spending hundreds of millions in that race. That’s both a threat, and an opportunity for Democrats. On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols will comment.

Also: How did we end up with Trump back in the White House? We got here in part because Republicans built a movement over several decades centered on what are called “the culture wars.” But there’s a long history behind the culture wars, going back at least a century to the Scopes Trial, in 1925, about teaching evolution. It’s still an issue today. Adam Hochschild is on the show to explain.

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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