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Trump and Vance, Cats and Dogs, and Haiti; Plus, Small-Town Trumpers

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Amy Wilentz talks about Haitians in the US, and Sasha Abramsky reports on MAGA as a local political movement.

Jon Wiener

September 25, 2024

Republican vice presidential nominee, US Senator JD Vance (R-OH) speaks with media on September 14, 2024, in Greenville, North Carolina.(Allison Joyce / Getty Images)

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Trump and Vance, Cats and Dogs, and Haiti; plus Small Town Trumpers | Start Making Sense
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Trump has cancelled his plans to visit Springfield, Ohio, but his lie about Haitian immigrants there eating cats and dogs continues to riccochet around the American political world. Amy Wilentz comments.

Plus: The presidential election is the main political battle in America today, but Trump’s followers have also been fighting, for years, to take over towns across the country. Sasha Abramsky reports on two exemplary battles. His new book is ‘Chaos Comes Calling.’

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Trump has canceled his plan to visit Springfield, Ohio, but his lie about Haitian immigrants there eating cats and dogs continues to ricochet around the American political world. Amy Wilentz comments.Plus: The presidential election is the main political battle in America today, but Trump’s followers have also been fighting for years to take over towns across the country. Sasha Abramsky reports on two exemplary battles. His new book is Chaos Comes Calling.

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Rebecca Solnit on Hope in the Dark; plus the Trump-Musk Bromance | Start Making Sense
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Hope does not mean saying ‘this is not bad,’ Rebecca Solnit argues; it just means we will not give up—because we know that what we do matters, and we also know we’ve been surprised by good things we never expected.

Also: The bromance between Elon Musk and Donald Trump cannot last – historian David Nasaw will explain why.

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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