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Trump and Vance, Cats and Dogs, and Haiti; Plus, Small-Town Trumpers

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Amy Wilentz talks about Haitians in the US, and Sasha Abramsky reports on MAGA as a local political movement.

Jon Wiener

September 25, 2024

Republican vice presidential nominee, US Senator JD Vance (R-OH) speaks with media on September 14, 2024, in Greenville, North Carolina.(Allison Joyce / Getty Images)

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Trump and Vance, Cats and Dogs, and Haiti; plus Small Town Trumpers | Start Making Sense
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Trump has cancelled his plans to visit Springfield, Ohio, but his lie about Haitian immigrants there eating cats and dogs continues to riccochet around the American political world. Amy Wilentz comments.

Plus: The presidential election is the main political battle in America today, but Trump’s followers have also been fighting, for years, to take over towns across the country. Sasha Abramsky reports on two exemplary battles. His new book is ‘Chaos Comes Calling.’

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Trump has canceled his plan to visit Springfield, Ohio, but his lie about Haitian immigrants there eating cats and dogs continues to ricochet around the American political world. Amy Wilentz comments.Plus: The presidential election is the main political battle in America today, but Trump’s followers have also been fighting for years to take over towns across the country. Sasha Abramsky reports on two exemplary battles. His new book is Chaos Comes Calling.

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Elon Musk’s First Political Contributions of 2025; plus The History of Culture Wars | Start Making Sense
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The first big election of 2025 will be in Wisconsin, which elects a new Supreme Court Justice on April 1. Elon Musk is spending hundreds of millions in that race. That’s both a threat, and an opportunity for Democrats. On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols will comment.

Also: How did we end up with Trump back in the White House? We got here in part because Republicans built a movement over several decades centered on what are called “the culture wars.” But there’s a long history behind the culture wars, going back at least a century to the Scopes Trial, in 1925, about teaching evolution. It’s still an issue today. Adam Hochschild is on the show to explain.

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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