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Why Trump Won’t Be the Candidate in 2024

David Cay Johnston on Trump, plus Eric Foner and Henry Louis Gates on W.E.B. Du Bois.

Start Making Sense and Jon Wiener

December 16, 2021

Former president of the United States Donald Trump waves prior to Game Four of the World Series between the Houston Astros and the Atlanta Braves Truist Park on October 30, 2021, in Atlanta, Ga.(Michael Zarrilli / Getty Images)

Trump is going to be indicted for racketeering and fraud, because of his financial crimes, and that will prevent him from being the Republican candidate: That’s what David Cay Johnston says—he’s an award-winning investigative reporter, and his new book is The Big Cheat: How Trump Fleeced America and Enriched Himself and His Family.

Also: Eric Foner and Henry Louis Gates talk about W.E.B. Du Bois, the Black historian and activist of the first part of the 20th century, and his book Black Reconstruction 1860-1880—published originally in 1935, and out now in a new edition from the Library of America, edited by Foner and Gates.

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