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The Trump Verdict and the Pundits—Plus, Trump and Women Now

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Marc Cooper critiques the conventional wisdom, and Katha Pollitt comments on female voters.

Jon Wiener

June 5, 2024

Former president Donald Trump enters a news conference at Trump Tower following the verdict in his hush-money trial at Trump Tower, on May 31, 2024, in New York City.(Spencer Platt / Getty Images)

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The Trump Verdict and the Pundits, plus Trump and Women Now | Start Making Sense
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The punditocracy has been arguing that the guilty verdicts in the Trump trial won’t matter much in the election – Marc Cooper disagrees, and explains what’s wrong about the conventional wisdom. 

Also: The Trump verdict and women voters: Exit polls have consistently shown women voting Democratic, and men voting Republican – especially with Trump. How much wider will the Gender Gap get, now that Trump has been found guilty-of lying about having had sex with a porn star? Katha Pollitt will comment.

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The punditocracy has been arguing that the guilty verdicts in the Trump trial won’t matter much in the election. Marc Cooper disagrees. He’s on this episode of Start Making Sense to explain what’s wrong with the conventional wisdom.

Also on this episode: Exit polls have consistently shown more women voting Democratic, and more men voting Republican—especially with Trump. How much wider will the gender gap get, now that Trump has been found guilty of lying about having had sex with a porn star? Katha Pollitt will comment.

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Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.

Elon Musk’s First Political Contributions of 2025; plus The History of Culture Wars | Start Making Sense
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The first big election of 2025 will be in Wisconsin, which elects a new Supreme Court Justice on April 1. Elon Musk is spending hundreds of millions in that race. That’s both a threat, and an opportunity for Democrats. On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols will comment.

Also: How did we end up with Trump back in the White House? We got here in part because Republicans built a movement over several decades centered on what are called “the culture wars.” But there’s a long history behind the culture wars, going back at least a century to the Scopes Trial, in 1925, about teaching evolution. It’s still an issue today. Adam Hochschild is on the show to explain.

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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