Podcast / American Prestige / Jan 30, 2024

The ICJ Israel Case Explainer With Aslı Bâli

On this episode of American Prestige, the legal definition of genocide, what was ordered in the ICJ ruling, and the court’s ability to enforce it.

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The ICJ Israel Case Explainer w/ Aslı Bâli | American Prestige
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On this episode of American Prestige, Danny and Derek chat with Aslı Bâli, professor of law at Yale Law School.

Aslı, whose research focuses largely on human rights law and the law of the international security order, helps us break down the legal definition of genocide, the substance of the ICJ ruling and what was ordered, and the court’s ability to enforce it.

The conversation continues for subscribers, covering the American legal community’s reaction, how this decision compares with the ICJ’s 2022 ruling on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, what Gaza’s “occupied” status means regarding Israel’s prerogatives in this situation, and more.

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South African delegation members John Dugard, Tembeka Ngcukaitobi, and Adila Hassimon prepare for today’s hearings of Israel’s point of view as South Africa has requested the International Court of Justice to indicate measures concerning alleged violations of human rights by Israel in the Gaza Strip on January 12, 2024, in The Hague, The Netherlands.

South African delegation members John Dugard, Tembeka Ngcukaitobi, and Adila Hassimon prepare for today’s hearings of Israel’s point of view as South Africa has requested the International Court of Justice to indicate measures concerning alleged violations of human rights by Israel in the Gaza Strip on January 12, 2024, in The Hague, The Netherlands.

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On this episode of American Prestige, Danny and Derek chat with Aslı Bâli, professor of law at Yale Law School.

Aslı, whose research focuses largely on human rights law and the law of the international security order, helps us break down the legal definition of genocide, the substance of the ICJ ruling and what was ordered, and the court’s ability to enforce it.

The conversation continues for subscribers, covering the American legal community’s reaction, how this decision compares with the ICJ’s 2022 ruling on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, what Gaza’s “occupied” status means regarding Israel’s prerogatives in this situation, and more.

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Trump and Putin Talk Ukraine Ceasefire, M23 Continues DRC Advance, Sudan's Military Makes Gains | American Prestige
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On this week's news roundup from American Prestige: Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin agree to start bilateral peace talks for the war in Ukraine (1:05), with anticipated fallout for the latter nation (6:17); Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth makes some frank comments on Europe, Ukraine, and NATO (8:06); an update on the situation in Israel-Palestine, including Hamas threatening to delay the next hostage release over Israeli transgressions (12:06) and Trump continuing to push a US takeover of Gaza (16:53); in Lebanon, a new government is formed (21:22) and the IDF seeks to extend its occupation there (23:28); a Washington Post report suggests Israel might be planning to strike Iran (25:33); in China news, Trump reinstates a de minimis tariff exemption, but there is still no sign of a meeting with Xi Jinping (28:46); the Sudanese military is close to driving the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) out of the Khartoum region (31:20); the so-called Islamic State group appears to be on the rise in Somalia (33:36); a regional summit demands a ceasefire in the Democratic Republic of Congo as M23 continues its advance (35:38); and back in the United States, Trump announces new steel and aluminum tariffs (38:58) in addition to presenting exciting new opportunities for corruption (40:52).

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Daniel Bessner

Daniel Bessner is an historian of US foreign relations, and cohost of American Prestige, a podcast on international affairs.

Derek Davison

Derek Davison is a writer and analyst specializing in international affairs and US foreign policy. He is the publisher of the Foreign Exchanges newsletter, cohost of the American Prestige podcast, and former editor of LobeLog.

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